Day 14 - Luxor to Edfu - Nile Cruise

Morning Moon Over the Nile River

This morning we are still at the same Luxor port. We had a very early breakfast and joined our guide at 6:15a to the Valley of the Kings. Brenda and David went on a hot air balloon ride, they left at 3 or 4a! We have the plan to connect with their guide from that adventure near the Valley of the Kings and that worked out well. On the way to pick them up we stopped at the famed Colossi of Memnon, which is two 66 ft statues that weigh 1,000 tons. These are statues of Amenhotep III. These statues were know by the ancient Greeks to emit haunting voices (a whistle) at dawn. Though damaged now my nature and tourists, the statues are still very impressive. There is other excavation going on in the area as well.  Then we waited for a little while and they came from their excursion. As we waited we watched the small world go by here in Memnon, 2 female goat herders, young men on donkeys, etc. Then on to the Valley of the Kings.

Colossi of Memnon

 

Goat Herd

We visited 3 tombs while at the Valley of the Kings. None of the tombs have anything in them, but the carving and painting on the walls is still colorful after thousands of years - not subjected to the sun or elements, it lasts. Strangely enough even in these cavern type tombs it is warm. If we go into a cave in the USA it is always cool inside. Perhaps the ones we went in are not deep enough? There are some here that are very deep but people are not allowed in them. We did not go in Tut's tomb, there is nothing in it and it costs extra. Anyway, hiking into the tombs is relatively easy, hiking out, not so much. Fantastic to see though, well worth it. We had plenty of time so we could go slow and rest for minute a few times on the way up. 

From there we went to an Alabaster factory, not really a factory but 4 men hand carving a variety of things from a variety of stones. They even had a stone called Moonstone that glows in the dark! It really looks fake but it isn't I guess.

John taking his hand at the Alabaster

On the way back to our boat we visited the Temple of Queen Hatshepsut. This beautiful monument was built to the only female pharaoh. It rises out of the desert plain in a series of terraces and merges with the sheer limestone cliffs that surround it. Much of it was destroyed by her jealous stepson because he felt he should be the pharaoh. Still vibrant colors remain in some places and there are some sizable statues as well.

Temple of Queen Hatshepsut

We arrived back to the boat and rested for about 30 minutes before our scheduled lunch at 1p. We were to set sail at 1:30p but it was after 2p before that actually happened. We found a nice, shady spot on the top deck to see the views from a lounge and snap photos as desired. I had a nice conversation with a woman just a bit younger than me. She and her friend are from Alexandrea. I gather she is Muslim as she covers her head with a tied scarf and she asked me if we saw the Citadel. I told her we did because we did see it from the freeway. She asked and I told her the places we saw in Cairo. She didn't know of the Cavern or Cave church, but her friend told her about it. She spoke English but her friend didn't. Anyway, between the 3 of us we had a nice conversation. If not for Radicals of many types, I believe people would live in peace(?) As our shade moved, so did we - back to our cabin. We opened our drapes, enjoyed the AC and watched the river flow by while sitting on our bed!

We got in the spirit of things wearing a Galabeya (traditional long gown) for the Egypt evening. I bought mine in Cairo and a scarf for my head on the boat. John got his outfit on the boat including the head gear for US$15. Our photos were taken and I hope one turns out! Egyptian food was served at dinner, which was very nice. After dinner we went up to the sun deck and watched our travel to Edfu. We had a close trip under a bridge. Since the water is low, I wonder what they would do if the water was high? There was a "party" at 9:30p but I will say we are in our room by then and ready for bed. Getting up at 5a - well, we just can't stay up too late tonight!

John and George

 

Of Note: BBC news shows that Brazil is the #1 in qualifying for the World Cup! Will this be the year we get the 6th World Cup Win?  

Day 13 - Luxor to Nile Cruise

Upper Egypt is really the south of Cairo and Lower Egypt is the northern part. The Nile is the only river on earth that flows south to north, or so I am told. I need to check that out because I thought that was the case of all rivers south of the equator! Our pick up time was 10:30a, which was nice because we got in late (for us) last night. This hotel is quite nice! We noticed that we had a balcony this morning and we can see the Nile River from here. We got ready, had breakfast, and I got the free Wi-Fi in the lobby. Unfortunately, I could not upload photos because it took so long. I will add, this is the nicest hotel we have stayed in. We even had a balcony to see the Nile River. Too bad we aren't here longer. The breakfast was quite nice. There was a omelet bar and we each had a small omelet. No bacon again but there were "mini burgers" as in a huge pan with tiny patties and I had one of those. The beef was very good. No Pomegranate - I am getting spoiled! They did have Hibiscus and Tamarind juices though.

Our Ya’lla tour guide George arrived. He is a nice man who is 33 years old. He asked me how old I thought he was. I guessed 28 - I thought 30, so I wanted to be safe! He was very happy that I guessed younger! His birthday was Nov. 12, like Saira's. He is a cheerful man with a friendly smile. He is a Christian, we think this will make our trip even better due to the like minded thinking. He asked if we were Catholic, I said no, Protestant. He said he really didn't know the difference. I simply told him we believe the basics - Jesus is the Son of God, born of the Virgin Mary, died on the cross for our sins to give us eternal life. He smiled and said, YES, everything but that really doesn't matter!  He also brought up our election. Again, this man tells me everyone in Egypt is so happy there is no Clinton! They basically blame her for all the trouble in the middle east beginning with 2011, and the Arab Spring troubles here in Egypt. Anyway, just a short 20-25 minute drive to the boat. George poses by the gang plank - We are not in the USA as you can see! So we are on the Radamis II and ready for our cruise! George got us all checked in and we went to our cabin #409. He returned to the Luxor airport to pick up the other 2 people who will be with us.

Boarding

 

Our Cabin

We went to lunch at 1p meeting David and Brenda from OR, somewhere not too far from Portland. I would say they are in their 40's. He is a Physician Assistant and Brenda works for Intel software. They have no children but a cat they adore, well I can't hold that against them! They seem nice enough. Lunch was more American than anything we have had so far, only the salad bar was more middle eastern with pickled things. Chicken and fish were the proteins and both were very good. Unlike a "regular" cruise ship, this is all served buffet style, other than the fish which the chef was frying in the dining area.

After lunch we took a short drive to visit Karnak Temple, called by some “the Temple of Temples.” It is the largest place of worship ever built. Its ancient name Ipet-isut means “the most sacred of places.” The temple, or, more correctly, the complex of temples, was built over more than two thousand years by generation after generation of pharaohs. Within the complex, the great “Hypostyle Hall” is an incredible forest of giant pillars covering an area larger than the whole of Notre Dame Cathedral. It was an astonishing site considering this place began to be built in 3000 BC and work was stopped in 450 BC! Some of the colors are still pretty vibrant. I will add, the way they made their colors to paint in these temples is different that I thought. They finely ground stones of different colors, then mixed it with egg yolk! They used Lapis, Malachite, amber, and others I cannot recall right now. It's quite warm in the sun but thankfully there is plenty of shade.

Karnak Temple

We then visited the graceful Temple of Luxor built by Amenhotep III and Ramses II for ritual and festivals and dedicated to the god Amun. The sun is going down and I wish I had a shot of that sunset, it was brilliant! Traveling in a van is not the best way to take a photo! Most off this temple has strategic lighting so the pictures look pretty nice even after dark. Fascinating is the Avenue of the Sphinx. It went from Karnak to Luxor with Sphinx along the entire way. Only part of this is excavated. Just seeing the parts exposed is astounding.

Luxor Temple

We returned to our boat and had 1.5 hours before our 7:30p dinner time. We ate light and had a nice visit with David and Brenda. They are getting up at 3:15A to take a hot air balloon ride. Good for them! We think 6:15a is very early to start out for us, but at least it will be cooler and we don't really mind! I was really sorry the other day to realize I left my little ice pack in Israel. My knee could use some icing tonight but it has been worse. At least we don't have to move to the next hotel anytime soon. After this cruise we will fly to Cairo and then from there home.

Our Nile Cruise on the RADAMIS II:  One of the most luxurious Nile Cruises. It has 60 deluxe cabins and 6 presidential suites all with TV, minibar, hairdryer and safe. Facilities and amenities include pool and Jacuzzi, lounge, nightclub, boutique, gift shop, sun deck, 4 bars, and laundry facilities. www.radamis.com/Cruises

Day 12 - Cairo to Luxor

We began our day at 10a today because we will not return to the hotel but go directly to the airport tonight for our flight to Luxor. Magued joined us for some of the day. I'm a little unsure why he drove with us but I believe he had another group he was monitoring as well. He is perfect for his job. He is so detailed - more about that at the airport later today.

On to the Egyptian Museum of Antiquities. There is a new museum being built that will be the largest museum in the world when it is completed. This museum is very old itself and the new museum will have a much safer way to preserve some of the delicate items we saw. There is a fee to carry a camera, though it is a small fee, Henry suggested I not take the camera and that for $10 I can get a DVD/CD with pictures of everything in the museum and all over Egypt. So, that's what I did. It was very strange NOT to take photos! Henry gave us our personal and detailed, guided tour. I can say we have become friends in this short time! 

Our lunch break was on a "retired" Nile cruise ship. Several of these boats are stationary at the side of the river and serve as very nice restaurants.

After lunch we went to Old Cairo to visit the Old Coptic Church and the Ben Ezra Synagogue. We also visited the Cave Church, which is where the Holy family stayed when they came to Egypt. In fact the Coptic Church has historical records from the early Coptic church in the 4th century BC with writings stating where the Holy family traveled and lived while in Egypt. They have built a church on each site. Henry said we can Google and find that.  (no Internet in my room to do that)

Locations of Christian Churches

I had made a request to go to a store with essential oils. These are different that the ones I use from doTerra but they are pure and made here in Egypt. There are some that I have never seen available before. I loved the stop and actually John did too. They had some mint that was place in a hot glass of water and immediately cleared our heads, you can see that it would be fabulous with a cold or something. John really wanted that! We bought some and they gave us additional glass bottles and a burner. Such a sweet woman Mona helped us with explanations and uses.

From there we drove on to the Old Market that Henry that Henry thought we would enjoy. I am sure they are also trying to fill up our time since our flight is not until 8:45p. We opted not to go to the Mohammad Ali Mosque. We've been in a Mosque in Dubai or Abu Dhabi and we really have no interest in seeing another. We drove by it on our way and saw the Citadel as well. Henry said the market place is how the real people of Cairo live. What a lively and fun place. Every sort of shop you can imagine on narrow streets with happy people. At one point we stopped at El Feshawi, which is a "famous" coffee shop where a well known writer penned his writings. We had mint tea and relaxed. I might add there is another man walking with us, in a suit. I asked Henry about this. He said he is escorting us, it is not needed but he is bored and wanted to be around Americans. Market place, police escort because they are bored in some cases. Henry was born and raised here, he knows at least one person at every stop we make!

Tea at the Market

As we left the market we bid farewell to Henry at a Metro station to make his way home to his family. We will miss him! Osama had the arduous task of crawling through the unbelievable traffic too take us to the airport. We felt very safe as his driving skills are magnificent! Keep in mind they do have lines indicating lanes on the freeways and most streets, but clearly these are only vague suggestions!

Unbelievable - McDonald's in Cairo!

On arrival to the airport there was Maged to greet us. He had our boarding passes and whisked us thought the lines, security, and deposited us on the walkway to our gate. He is one of the most organized and efficient people I have ever met. He had an envelope for us with pounds to pay our way into Abu Simbel at the end of the cruise, hotel voucher for Luxor, and verbally gave instructions about the guide to meet us tomorrow morning. He explained it all and then again asking if I understood. I did, but I am sure John didn't so it was good that he asked.

Our flight was uneventful, our Ya'lla transfer person was waiting for us and another couple. We had two cars and they transferred us to the hotel quickly. We are tired but John ordered room service, a BURGER! I had a couple bites, it was delicious! So off to bed. We will be picked up at 10:30a to transfer to our cruise on the Nile and meet George our guide! We may not have internet on the cruise, it is undetermined at this time. 

It takes forever to upload photos, so I will add them later if I can. 

Day 11 - Giza

Sunrise in Egypt

We both awoke before out alarms went off, showered, and headed down to breakfast. The choices are somewhat different than we had in Israel. They have many of the same things, such as Asian foods, fruit, vegetables, and all sorts of breads and sweet breads. John was happy to see pancakes. They offered beef sausages, which I did try but could not really identify the beef flavor. The coffee is quite special brought to each table and they leave you your very own press with fresh coffee! Anyway, we had our fill and sat in the lobby area awaiting the start of our day. 

Our wonderful Egyptologist tour guide (Henry) and driver (Osama) picked us up 8:00a to start our tour. Henry is amazing and such a wealth of knowledge! He is a Coptic Christian, married, has 2 daughters and one son, born in Egypt, lived in the USA for 6 months, he is brilliant and kind. We are quite blessed today to have him as our personal and private guide. Our first stops were here in Giza to see the Great Pyramids, including a burial chamber in the small pyramid; the Valley Temple; and the Sphinx. It is so remarkable!  We were given so much information I am sure I have only retained a tiny bit of it. There are 118 pyramids in Egypt, some are small.  The Great Pyramid of Giza (also known as the Pyramid of Khufu or Pyramid of Cheops) is the largest of all the pyramids. This remained the largest structure on earth until the Eiffel Tower was built. The three main pyramids here in Giza were built for the King, his son, and grandson. All were Kings and they vary in size accordingly. These were essentially their tombs holding their bodies, jewelry, food, everything they felt they would need in their second life. Of course these places were robbed early on so after this happened all Kings were buried in the Valley of the Kings to avoid such robbery. No mummy of a king has ever been found inside a pyramid. This largest pyramid in Giza has 2,300,000 stones weighting 2-16 tons each. The very top of this pyramid was destroyed to use the stones by Mohammad Ali, but a Frenchman named Joseph (?) stopped him from destroying more. These pyramids in Giza were completely covered by sand until their discovery. This was just an astounding visit that cannot be fully described. I will add that the the Sphinx was actually carved not built. It was carved in the quarry that had been used to get the rocks to build the pyramids. It is breezy and very enjoyable. I was concerned it would be very hot here but it is just perfect. 

Next we drove to a papyrus factory. We have been warned not to buy any works of papyrus other than from a reputable dealer because you will really be getting banana leaves instead. Fascinating revolution to the first paper made on earth and real papyrus can only be found in Egypt. 

  

Now we had the option for lunch first or our visit to Saqqara (Sakkara) to see the prototype of the pyramids, the Step Pyramid, built for the 3rd Dynasty Pharaoh Djoser by the exalted architect Imhotep. We aren't that hungry so we went to the Step Pyramid first. Another mind-boggling site! They are restoring parts of this pyramid right now. It is painstakingly slow from what we understand. 

A Guest Room  near the Step Pyramid

Writing from 2611 BC

Next we had a brief visit to a carpet school. It is an intricate skill that is taught here. I think the rugs were reasonably priced but really not my taste. 

We stopped for our lunch and such nice conversation with Henry. He shared miracles in this life and we shared some of ours. Our lunch stop was included in our day. We had several appetizers served with fresh baked, warm pita bread (light and airy, not much like our pita bread). This was followed by rice pilaf, then later they brought lamb, chicken, and french fries. Some different customs than we have but delicious food. Dessert was fresh dates, they are so delicious! We ate them with the skin as we did before but Henry told us we should peel them. The skin does slip right off so he said it was more "civilized" that way - who knew? 

Fresh Dates

On the way back toward our hotel he asked if we wanted anything else. We could think of nothing... but then he mentioned on the Nile cruise we will have Galabeyya party night and was I interested in looking at some I might want to wear. A Galabeyya dress is simply a caftan or loose fitting dress. I found one I liked at the Flower Cotton store for about US$15. I did plan to buy one so I am all set now. Mine is very simple, lively material but not very fancy. I believe it was around 2p when we returned to the hotel. We had a relaxing afternoon. In the evening we went down for a glass of wine and sambossek at the pool restaurant again. A sambossek is like an empanada in Mexico or a pastel in Brazil, slightly different but delicious. The weather is so perfect! 

The Pool Restaurant

Sambossek

We came back up to pack because we need to leave with our luggage in the morning. However, we have a late pick up at 10a so we do not have to rush. 

Day 10 - Jerusalem - Cairo - Giza

Today we are up and checked out of our room by 6:20a. We had a quick breakfast and we waited in the lobby for our transfer to Ben Gurion Airport. Pini our driver was early so off we went. There was very little traffic and we were all happy about that! Pini is from Iran, 66 years old but looks younger. He came to Israel in 1980. He cannot go back to Iran to even visit his family there because he is now an Israeli citizen. I felt I could see sorrow in his eyes when he said this. We don't fully appreciate all the freedoms we have being in the USA all of our lives. He visited Israel after his military service and met this lovely woman he could not resist so he moved here and has 3 children with her. How many Pini's are there in the world who will never have the opportunity to see their birth country again? 

Moving on we had a nice drive to the airport. I heard so much about the rigorous security at the airport, needing 3 hours, etc. I was wondering what it would be like. I warned John not to question anything, but do what we were told. Sometimes he is just curious but it can be taken the wrong way! So we were questioned, normal questions (who packed your luggage, etc) and looked at with glasses on and off. We had a photo taken. Other than that, which was quick, we were on our way! We had 2 hours to wait but there was a nice place to sit and I got some food for the plane. Soon we were boarding our Air Sinai/Egypt Air flight to Egypt. The plane was not full and the flight was almost uneventful. I felt very bad for the people in front of us who had a darling little baby who diligently drank his bottle and then projectile vomited it into the isle just before landing... He missed us, that we were grateful for. Thankfully we had eaten our sandwich before that and it wasn't so bad (for us). After we had eaten our sandwich they brought around a simple meal!!!  We didn't expect that! I might add the food and drink served were reusable plastic and some of it was cracked. Clearly Egypt Air, or at least our short flight, is not "rich" in the market. 

Magued the Ya'lla person in Egypt was holding a sign with our name even before we got to baggage claim. He was happily surprised we had no checked luggage. He was super efficent and put our visa in our passport, had us through customs, through passport check, and heading to his van in about 10 minutes or less! I was amazed. What a nice man he is. He will not be our guide but our drive is Osama for the entire time we are in Cairo and Giza touring. Cairo is the second largest city in Africa and 20 million people live here. 

Magued got us all checked in and headed toward our room with the bellman. He then called after we were in our room to be sure we were satisfied - we were. 

The Lobby

Our View

It was good to relax though we have done little today. We turned on the TV and found NCIS reruns to John's delight. About 5:30p we went down to the lobby to purchase internet for our room. It is only US$5 per day and something that helps me out a lot. We then looked at the various restaurants to decide where to eat dinner. We were undecided but had a glass of wine in the bar area. US$1 = EGP$16. I feel very sorry for these people with such a low value to their pound. Our glass of wine was US$3.75, served with some highly salted nuts. 

After our wine we decided to explore the outside area by the pool. The weather is lovely with a slight breeze. John saw a restaurant by the pool and we opted to eat there. It was so refreshing as the pool surrounded the eating area. There was a grill and other options. I was hungry for a change smelling the food cook! I had the hummus appetizer and John had some sort of cottage cheese with herbs. (US$1 each!) John has veal kabobs and I had the veal chops for our main meal - Delicious! 

Grill Master!

Veal Chops

Veal Kabobs

Now John is sound asleep. I shall hope to post this and be on my way to sleep very soon. Missing my family tonight as many of them are heading over to Morro Strand for a long weekend. Thanking God today for all HE has provided - Thanking our Veterans - Thinking of my MOM who served in WWII, also my uncle. Thinking of my husband and sons Jeff and Steven who have served and grateful for them all. We are only free because of the brave men and women of our country. Thank YOU ALL!!!

Day 9 - Jerusalem

Today is our day to rest up and repack for our departure to Egypt tomorrow. We puttered around our room and ate a late breakfast at 9a, read, caught up on emails, washed some undies, and we think we are all set for the next adventure. Wondering if they serve bacon or sausage in Egypt at breakfast? A hamburger would be super for lunch or dinner as well! The fruit and vegetables in Israel are fantastic but one gets a little tired of fish, eggs, or cheese for protein. The lamb and chicken we rarely had were delicious. The little bit of beef we had, not so much. We will be picked up in the lobby at 7a so it's off to bed for us early tonight. 

Day 8 - Jerusalem

Today's pickup was 8a. You would't think 30 minutes wouldn't make that much difference but it seemed so much less rushed. Our group met here at our hotel, the Grand Court, and all got on our small 16 seater bus from here and headed to the Old City. 

Our touring today  begins at the Western Wall, the site of the Second Temple. We say the second Temple because this is not the temple of the time of Jesus. In 70 AD the temple was destroyed and again the temple was conquered by the Muslims in 691 AD.  The ONLY part of the temple of the time of Jesus is the Western Wall, or known as the Wailing Wall. This was originally the wall of the insignificant or poor. The people said at the time this wall remained because the Holy Spirit still lived here for these people. The Golden Mosque sits at the dome of the rock. This mosque is above the rock where Abraham was going to sacrifice Isaac. You (and I) might wonder why the Jewish people have not "reclaimed" this exact spot by removing the Golden Mosque and putting a Synagogue here or something else. There is Jewish law that forbids the Jews to enter this place of the mosque so that is why it remain a Muslim mosque here on the Dome of the Rock. So we see this Dome of the Rock. 

Dome of the Rock

We walk on from here to the Wailing Wall with a quick and fresh juice stop along the way. Pomegranate juice freshly squeezed is absolutely delicious!

John and Juice

Now at the Western Wall we separate men from women for this visit. You wash first (not mandatory but custom) and then go to the wall to pray, leave a petition, lament, or whatever is needed for you personally. I was able to take a photo of John walking to the wall.

The Western Wall - Men's Side

 My Petition placed in the wall

There are many shops besides juices as we walk. You can find spices, vegetables, prepared and unprepared foods, clothing, etc. along the way when walking though the outer part of the Temple. Even coffee shops! The Turkish coffee is delicious. 

Humor - True!

The Way of the Cross, the Via Dolorosa, and to the Church of the Holy Sepulchre is the next on our agenda. The stations of the cross were put in place in the 16th Century by the Christians. There are 14 stations. There is a booklet and a sign at every station. The last 4 stations are inside the church of the Sepulchre. There is a LONG wait, more than an hour, to see the final station where Jesus is laid in the tomb. All very symbolic and nice, but a man made situation that is nicely done. 

This is the Gate Jesus passed thought on his way to his crucifixion. Of course a church is built around it but it is the gate.

Walking on we see the tomb of King David and the Last Supper Room on Mount Zion. Of course there is no resemblance to Biblical times. David's tomb is far below the altar built above it. Again, my photo is of half because men and women cannot enter the same place. Some men leaving their side even lower their heads so they will not see women. I am not criticizing this culture, just noting the differences. 

David's Tomb

The Room of the Last Supper

Our entire morning was spent walking the Temple and surrounding area. Now we are back to the bus and sitting is a nice break! We travel to Ramat Rachel Kibbutz for lunch and a little shopping. I saw a lovely ring and questioned getting it and chose some less expensive earrings, John got both for me! The stone in this is Roman Glass that is 2000 years old; a beautiful aqua color! 

Back to the bus we now go the short distance to the Garden of Gethsemane on the Mount of Olives. More correctly stated, there are churches on the sites. There are a few very old few olive trees left on the mountain in the church yard. 

Mt. of Olives

We had a quick stop at the French National Domain of Eleona also on the Mount of Olives. It is also by the name of Church of the Pater Noster.  I am not sure if it was a scheduled stop be we are thrilled we stopped here. The rock wall in my photo is from the time of Christ and where he taught His disciples the Lord's Prayer. On walls around the church and its vaulted cloister, translations of the Lord’s Prayer in 140 languages are inscribed on colorful ceramic plaques. A long tradition holds that Jesus taught the Lord’s Prayer or Our Father in the cave that forms the grotto under the church. When the Crusaders built a church here in the 12th century, they called it Pater Noster (Latin for Our Father). Pilgrims of the time reported seeing the words of the prayer inscribed in Hebrew and Greek on marble plaques. Excavations have uncovered a Latin version.The Gospels suggest that Jesus taught the Lord’s Prayer at least twice. Matthew 6:5-15 has this teaching as part of the Sermon on the Mount in Galilee; Luke 11:1-4 has it while Jesus is on his way from Galilee to Jerusalem. The cave under the Pater Noster Church certainly existed in Jesus’ time. Near the summit of the mount, it would have been a secluded and sheltered place for a small group to gather.

Our last stop was just a view from our bus from Mount Scopus for a sweeping view of Jerusalem. We are tired and looking forward to a day off tomorrow before we head to our Egypt tour. Much of what we see is different than how we thought it would be. There is very little left from the times of Jesus. That, of course, makes sense. Our country looks nothing like it looked 2000 years ago either! It has been enjoyable seeing the mountains, lakes, and other ancient sites where Jesus, the Apostles, & others placed their feet.